This past Saturday, October 12, I rolled out my new book Before Atlantis on the “Martian Revelation” radio show hosted by Gary Leggiere. I spoke with Gary about the book, my past involvement in the independent Mars investigation and what I have been working on more recently. I related the idea of pole shifts on Mars to those on Earth and explained the concept of using geometrical alignments of archaeological sites to previous positions of the North Pole to date the sites using Charles Hapgood’s theory of crustal displacement.